Warriors are useless.

Anything Helmet Heroes related can be posted here.

Warriors are useless.

Postby Based Doge » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:57 pm

Yes, they are the worst class in the game, Why? Mages and Archers are better in pve thab warriors, Archers because their long range and they do comparable damage, mages because their decent range and INSANE DAMAGE. In pvp is the same Range>Melee, a mage can shut down a few warriors with only an atack, and archers can run and wait when the warrior get bored, Warriors really needs a buff or at least better skills.

PD: Sorry about my bad gramma, english is not my native language.
Image
User avatar
Based Doge
 
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:40 am

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Ky372 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:06 pm

What I think would be helpful for this, would be allowing everyone to use self-heal without the need for a magic weapon. I was really disappointed when I spent some points on it, upped my MP to use it, and found I couldn't. If you give warriors the ability to self-heal without requiring them to swap weapons, I think that would help a lot.
~ Admin of Helmet Heroes Wiki. Contact me for anything wiki related!
Ky372
 
Posts: 863
Joined: Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:05 pm

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Based Doge » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:12 pm

And look at the warrior skills, Power atack, 200 skill points to max it, and multi atack doesn't work in pvp.
Image
User avatar
Based Doge
 
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:40 am

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Y.L. » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:20 pm

But when it comes to fighting monsters, Mages are the most OP, look at itblobboy for example. He has like 1000 magic and he can kill the Boss Monster without any boost of special abilities or anything. Then look at r3v3r3nd(the best warrior) he shows that the power swing is very useful and that it is worth 200 skill points it takes up, with his power swing he can 1 hit the beholder. Then archers, they dont have to be next to monsters to kill them, but i cant do nearly enough damage to the Boss Monster to kill it and i have like 1000 range and with archer special abilities it would cost me about 800 MP just to possibly kill one, but i dont have to risk dying as i do not have to be near the monster. Each character has their own strengths. Mages are OP, Archers and warriors are about thesame because they each have their trade offs. Warriors have a really good special ability that allows them to destroy pretty much, archers just dont have to be next to the monster.
Image
Y.L.
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:06 am
Location: US

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby itblobboy » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:52 pm

Based Doge wrote:Yes, they are the worst class in the game, Why? Mages and Archers are better in pve thab warriors, Archers because their long range and they do comparable damage, mages because their decent range and INSANE DAMAGE. In pvp is the same Range>Melee, a mage can shut down a few warriors with only an atack, and archers can run and wait when the warrior get bored, Warriors really needs a buff or at least better skills.

PD: Sorry about my bad gramma, english is not my native language.


WHAT THE F--- IS THIS BULLS--- HAVE YOU SEEN POWER ATTACK IN USE??? :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil:

Y.L. wrote:But when it comes to fighting monsters, Mages are the most OP, look at itblobboy for example. He has like 1000 magic and he can kill the Boss Monster without any boost of special abilities or anything.


Thats not true I can't solo it without using the crap out of special abilities. Plus it takes a lot of luck :|
Ey yeah I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts
http://giveadamn.co.uk/give/itblobboy
User avatar
itblobboy
 
Posts: 9317
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:55 pm
Location: I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Y.L. » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:02 pm

Oh maybe i saw/thought wrong, i thought i saw you briefly, like yesterday. Attacking it and you killed it with just normal attack.
Image
Y.L.
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:06 am
Location: US

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby itblobboy » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:11 pm

I do use normal attacks with rage after I lightning all the monsters I round up :lol:
Ey yeah I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts
http://giveadamn.co.uk/give/itblobboy
User avatar
itblobboy
 
Posts: 9317
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:55 pm
Location: I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Y.L. » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:13 pm

itblobboy wrote:I do use normal attacks with rage after I lightning all the monsters I round up :lol:


Yea i saw, it was rage i was missing :P
Image
Y.L.
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:06 am
Location: US

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby SOUL_SLAYER » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:49 pm

you know its because of recent updates the other classes are so OP.
Image
User avatar
SOUL_SLAYER
 
Posts: 2809
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:31 pm
Location: Behind you.

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Y.L. » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:43 pm

SOUL_SLAYER wrote:you know its because of recent updates the other classes are so OP.

how?
Image
Y.L.
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:06 am
Location: US

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby itblobboy » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:08 pm

Based Doge wrote:Yes, they are the worst class in the game, Why? Mages and Archers are better in pve thab warriors, Archers because their long range and they do comparable damage, mages because their decent range and INSANE DAMAGE. In pvp is the same Range>Melee, a mage can shut down a few warriors with only an atack, and archers can run and wait when the warrior get bored, Warriors really needs a buff or at least better skills.

PD: Sorry about my bad gramma, english is not my native language.


By the way, I would like to point out a level 100 warrior would slaughter a level 100 mage if they both split their ability points to 200 MP, then 50-50'd defense and magic/strength. :roll:
Ey yeah I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts
http://giveadamn.co.uk/give/itblobboy
User avatar
itblobboy
 
Posts: 9317
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:55 pm
Location: I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Stabber » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:10 pm

Archers < Warriors < Mages. Although Mages have been nerfed significantly recently, and so are only a little bit ahead of warriors.
User avatar
Stabber
 
Posts: 973
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:11 pm

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby SlayerBlade » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:49 pm

keep in mind, everything is stats based. and it is all how you use the skills and attacks. Just archers and mages take a bit longer to get powerfull, and mages are late bloomers stated in the guides. and some of your complaints seem to be PVP related so....
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5532

Helmet Heroes Comics.
User avatar
SlayerBlade
 
Posts: 627
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:20 pm

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby EliasDaniel » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:03 pm

Based Doge wrote:Yes, they are the worst class in the game, Why? Mages and Archers are better in pve thab warriors, Archers because their long range and they do comparable damage, mages because their decent range and INSANE DAMAGE. In pvp is the same Range>Melee, a mage can shut down a few warriors with only an atack, and archers can run and wait when the warrior get bored, Warriors really needs a buff or at least better skills.

PD: Sorry about my bad gramma, english is not my native language.

Well you see the thing is mages have to deal with mp (except itblobboy) every time you run out you have to get to a health place and some people run out FAST! (EliasDaniel) but the damage is OP...
Image
User avatar
EliasDaniel
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:27 pm
Location: Ohio

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Y.L. » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:43 pm

EliasDaniel wrote:
Based Doge wrote:Yes, they are the worst class in the game, Why? Mages and Archers are better in pve thab warriors, Archers because their long range and they do comparable damage, mages because their decent range and INSANE DAMAGE. In pvp is the same Range>Melee, a mage can shut down a few warriors with only an atack, and archers can run and wait when the warrior get bored, Warriors really needs a buff or at least better skills.

PD: Sorry about my bad gramma, english is not my native language.

Well you see the thing is mages have to deal with mp (except itblobboy) every time you run out you have to get to a health place and some people run out FAST! (EliasDaniel) but the damage is OP...


Actually every type of character now has to deal with MP( only the people who use special abilities)
Image
Y.L.
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:06 am
Location: US

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby pooface » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:50 pm

Let's stop comparing every mage to Itblobboy. He is an anomaly. Can we even pick another mage that is a threat to the top 5?
pooface
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:46 am

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby itblobboy » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:07 am

That felt like a compliment, so thank you Poof-Ace :mrgreen:
Ey yeah I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts
http://giveadamn.co.uk/give/itblobboy
User avatar
itblobboy
 
Posts: 9317
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:55 pm
Location: I'm gonna host a helmet heroes event on 4/20/2069 an and wqe're gonna go fishing in snowly flatts

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby pooface » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:05 am

I'm glad you took it as a compliment.
pooface
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:46 am

Re: Warriors are useless.

Postby Based Doge » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:44 pm

I have played a lot of mmorpgs, when you see a warrior in another game you see a character with a lot of hp or defense, they are meant to be the tanks of the game or use heavy weapons (liker hammers, axes and other big things), but here in HH you dont need a tanke, because if you hace a decent range in you weapon you can kill them without recibe a single hit from the mob, what i dont like is that you can see mages and archers wearing shields or bigger weapons (like a mega sword) but the thing is that mages and archers are supposed to be weaker, how a mage with 10 strenght can use a heavy shield or weapon? it just doesn't make sense.

Another thing about warriors that i dont like is that you need mana to use skills!, skills should be take another thing, like energy, stamina or cooldown, SPELLS are supposed to use mana (mages) , about archers, i supposed that they are elfs or something like that, so yes, they can use mana, energy and cooldown in their skills and spells, another thing is that mages can spend skill points in shield mastery and i think thats cool, but if you are a warrior or archer and you want to spend some skill points in self heal, you have to use a magic weapon ...

Thats why i think warriors are useless, the only thing that we have is a bit more defense that other classes (and is not like you have much more), i suggest more passive skills for warriors like a boost in Heal points and Heal point regeneration, Something like life steal would be cool in warriors, because they are a melee class (they are supposed to take the most damage in the game)a change in the mana for warriors to a static valor of Energy of 100 and Energy regeneration of 5 per second and of course, cooldown in warrior skills (we wont make warriors op) a stun is a great idea for warriors too, something like a rush with your shield that can stun for 1.5-2.5. secs of stun would be cool, and of course more movement speed for warriors because they have to be close to atack, if someone run more that a warrior, warriors cant kill them.

For mages we should add passives for Reduction of mana consume, Cooldown reduccion, something like 10% chance of ignore all the armor, for active skills something like Mana shield that can take 50% of the damage to your mana.

Archers should have passive called Invenom that deal 2-4% of the max hp of the enemy, They should have Traps that can snare you and much more.

But i know this game still in beta, i cant suggest much.

PD: sorry for my bad gramma, english is not my native language.
Image
User avatar
Based Doge
 
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:40 am


Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest